Amazing aircraft performance! For rate-of-climb, a Pitts Special has
nothing on these WW I planes, and they can pull more g's than an F-16.
Also, we see that Hollywood still believes that bullets make sparks when
they hit.

Looks like realism on about the scale of "Memphis Belle", alas.


http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/flyboys.html

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
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> Amazing aircraft performance! For rate-of-climb, a Pitts Special has
> nothing on these WW I planes, and they can pull more g's than an F-16.
> Also, we see that Hollywood still believes that bullets make sparks when
> they hit.
>
> Looks like realism on about the scale of "Memphis Belle", alas.
>
>
> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/flyboys.html
>


I attended the showing at Oshkosh. The director , Tony Bill, explained how
he built the computer generated flight scenes by having a modern acro type
aircraft fly a whole range of maneuvers while carrying a flight recorder.
Those digitized maneuvers were then transferred into the computer generated
process to build the flying scenes. I suspect, :) ,it wasn't a WW1 replica
that actually flew the maneuvers.

Ben

"Newsgroups" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Luke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Amazing aircraft performance! For rate-of-climb, a Pitts Special has
>> nothing on these WW I planes, and they can pull more g's than an F-16.
>> Also, we see that Hollywood still believes that bullets make sparks when
>> they hit.
>>
>> Looks like realism on about the scale of "Memphis Belle", alas.
>>
>>
>> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/flyboys.html
>>
>
>
> I attended the showing at Oshkosh. The director , Tony Bill, explained how
> he built the computer generated flight scenes by having a modern acro type
> aircraft fly a whole range of maneuvers while carrying a flight recorder.
> Those digitized maneuvers were then transferred into the computer
> generated process to build the flying scenes. I suspect, :) ,it wasn't a
> WW1 replica that actually flew the maneuvers.
>
> Ben

It was Bucher Joungman (SP) that flew the scenes. Not exactly a modern acro
type.
>
>

Dave Stadt schrieb:

> It was Bucher Joungman (SP)

Bücker Jungmann http://www.dorotheen.de/fly/bue131.htm

Personally, I think the snippets I've seen on Internet were pretty
mediocre computer animations.

Stefan

In article >,
"Dave Stadt" > wrote:

> It was Bucher Joungman (SP) that flew the scenes. Not exactly a modern acro
> type.

But an excellent airplane!

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message ...
: Amazing aircraft performance! For rate-of-climb, a Pitts Special has
: nothing on these WW I planes, and they can pull more g's than an F-16.
: Also, we see that Hollywood still believes that bullets make sparks when
: they hit.
:
: Looks like realism on about the scale of "Memphis Belle", alas.
:
:
: http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/flyboys.html
:
:

Don't know about the 'sparks'.

The movie is based on all sorts of true information. The smoke trails were left by the guns back then, and the director
said that there were reports from the ground that the sky looked like a big spider web after some of the aerial battles.

As stated, the Bücker Jungmann was instrumented and flown to create some flight profiles for use in creating the CG, but
all the low level shots are of real planes with real pilots...

Great movie, btw...

> Bücker Jungmann http://www.dorotheen.de/fly/bue131.htm
>
> Personally, I think the snippets I've seen on Internet were pretty
> mediocre computer animations.
>
> Stefan

Looks like a believable movie and some good flying scenes, but I agree. I
have yet to see a CGI airplane pull out of a dive without looking like it
was on a string.

jf

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:56:00 -0500, "Dan Luke"
> wrote:

>Also, we see that Hollywood still believes that bullets make sparks when
>they hit.

Incendiaries do indeed flash when they hit a hard surface, though
presumably not a fabric panel. Did they use incendiaries in WWI?

I can't wait!

(However inaccurate the movie might be, it can't be worse than Brady's
book with the same title but very different subject.)

Yes, incendiary loads in machine guns were used to bring
down balloons and airships that had hydrogen gas bags. For
use against hard targets, there are AP rounds with a hard
core that will penetrate light armor.

Steel jacketed bullets will spark on stone and rock
surfaces. Some 20 mm and larger bullets are actually
explosive and will flash on impact. Tracers have a hollow
base and are visible for several seconds, to allow a gunner
to see where the bullets are going, usually every 5 to 8
rounds is a tracer.


"Cubdriver" <usenet AT danford.net> wrote in message
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| On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:56:00 -0500, "Dan Luke"
| > wrote:
|
| >Also, we see that Hollywood still believes that bullets
make sparks when
| >they hit.
|
| Incendiaries do indeed flash when they hit a hard surface,
though
| presumably not a fabric panel. Did they use incendiaries
in WWI?
|
| I can't wait!
|
| (However inaccurate the movie might be, it can't be worse
than Brady's
| book with the same title but very different subject.)