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BobW
March 13th 12, 07:04 PM
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro 
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
<Begin cut-n-paste...>
IDENTIFICATION
   Regis#: 103SH        Make/Model: G103      Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
   Date: 02/22/2012     Time: 1800
   Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
   Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
   City: MOKULEIA   State: HI   Country: US
DESCRIPTION
   AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
                  # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
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Discus 44
March 13th 12, 07:36 PM
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> 
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro 
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> 
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> 
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>    Regis#: 103SH        Make/Model: G103      Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
>    Date: 02/22/2012     Time: 1800
> 
>    Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
>    Damage: Substantial
> 
> LOCATION
>    City: MOKULEIA   State: HI   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>    AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                   # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
> <End cut-n-paste...>
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> 
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro 
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> 
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> 
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>    Regis#: 103SH        Make/Model: G103      Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
>    Date: 02/22/2012     Time: 1800
> 
>    Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
>    Damage: Substantial
> 
> LOCATION
>    City: MOKULEIA   State: HI   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>    AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                   # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
> <End cut-n-paste...>
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> 
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro 
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> 
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> 
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>    Regis#: 103SH        Make/Model: G103      Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
>    Date: 02/22/2012     Time: 1800
> 
>    Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
>    Damage: Substantial
> 
> LOCATION
>    City: MOKULEIA   State: HI   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>    AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                   # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
> <End cut-n-paste...>
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> 
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro 
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> 
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> 
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>    Regis#: 103SH        Make/Model: G103      Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
>    Date: 02/22/2012     Time: 1800
> 
>    Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
>    Damage: Substantial
> 
> LOCATION
>    City: MOKULEIA   State: HI   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>    AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                   # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
> <End cut-n-paste...>
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> 
> Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro 
> (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> 
> Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> 
> <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>    Regis#: 103SH        Make/Model: G103      Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
>    Date: 02/22/2012     Time: 1800
> 
>    Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
>    Damage: Substantial
> 
> LOCATION
>    City: MOKULEIA   State: HI   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>    AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                   # Crew:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
> <End cut-n-paste...>
It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose.  No injuries except the glider of course.
T[_2_]
March 14th 12, 01:42 AM
On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
>
> > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
>
> > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
>
> > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
>
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
>
> > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > * *Damage: Substantial
>
> > LOCATION
> > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
>
> > DESCRIPTION
> > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
>
> > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
>
> > <End cut-n-paste...>
>
> It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course.
So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow
this to happen?
Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s.
T
Discus 44
March 14th 12, 04:00 PM
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:42:05 PM UTC-7, T wrote:
> On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
> > > From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).
> >
> > > Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
> > > (as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.
> >
> > > Let's hope the injury data is accurate...
> >
> > > <Begin cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > * *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
> > > * *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800
> >
> > > * *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
> > > * *Damage: Substantial
> >
> > > LOCATION
> > > * *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US
> >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > * *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII
> >
> > > INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
> > > * * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:
> >
> > > <End cut-n-paste...>
> >
> > It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course.
> 
> So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow
> this to happen?
> 
> Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s.
> 
> T
Sorry, It may not have been a student, my information came second hand.  More likely a private pilot.  We will have to wait until the detailed report is published.
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