304S off to an impressive start!

[Tim Mara]

Petr Krejcirík at the controls of the new 304S (Shark) prototype,( the one and only one entered in the competition ), after two days of competition is in 1st place in the open class (out of a total of 41 competitors). Results are on http://www.pribinacup.sk/2007/results/
Pretty impressive results I might say...
tim

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I'm curious what handicap is being used. Any info on that? Is it the
same as for 'non-S' 304 (DAeC index of 110)?
radek.
On Apr 8, 10:27 pm, "Tim Mara" > wrote:
> Petr Krejcirík at the controls of the new 304S (Shark) prototype,( the one and only one entered in the competition ), after two days of competition is in 1st place in the open class (out of a total of 41 competitors). Results are on http://www.pribinacup.sk/2007/results/
> Pretty impressive results I might say...
> tim

[Tim Mara]

certainly not..... you'll see they handicap some older gliders and there is
a slight difference in 18M and < and 18m and > but among all the 18 Meter
gliders the 304S has as you can see the consitantly had some of best actual
(non-handicapped) overall speeds posted among all gliders in this contest
being only bettered by very few and then only true open class gliders, not
by other 18M gliders.
If you look at the standings after day 3, Petr Krejcirík and the 304S were
given 33 fewer points than (LS8-18) at the same speed.
Still after 3 days of competition the 304S remains on top of all in overall
standings
I know there are a lot out there watching with interest, and I know
obviously some hopeing that the 304 doesn't perform as well or outperform
some of the brand "X" gliders.... for whatever reason... but it's pretty
hard to ignore this as an already great achievement ....
tim

PRIBINA CUP 2007 Open Class
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Open - Overall results after Day 3


# CN Pilot Country Glider Total
1. IH Petr Krejcirík Czech Republic HPH 304S/18m 2873
2. CZ Jana Vepreková Czech Republic Ventus 2C/18m 2759
3. BB Karol Staryszak Poland SZD 56 Diana 2 2695
4. A1 Ales Maraz Slovenia Nimbus 3/25;5m 2624
5. HJ Poul Kim Larsen Denmark ASH 25 2573
6. 2CI Svend Andersen Denmark ASG 29/18m 2566
7. VO Stasys Skalskis Lithuania LAK 17a 2487
8. 4T Peter Batenburg Netherlands Nimbus 4 2395
9. FX Tibor Fratrik Slovakia LS 8/18m 2367
10. ECC Adam Czeladzki Poland LS 8/18m 2364
11. GX Peter Szabo Hungary ASH 25EB 2360
12. MP Peter Marosi Hungary Ventus 2C/18m 2339
13. 12 Josef Busek Czech Republic LAK 12 2325
14. 1W Johan Frey Denmark Duo Discus T 2238
15. NV Vytautas Maciulis Lithuania LAK 17A/18m 2237
16. PBI Jan Walther Gevad Denmark DG 600/18m 2235
17. CXI Branislav Jesensky Slovakia Ventus 2C/18m 2194
18. ZB Zdzislaw Bednarczuk Poland Ventus 2C/18m 2015
19. IR István Réti Hungary Ventus 2C/18m 1967
20. LT Lubomír Svoboda Czech Republic LAK 19/18m 1959
21. 77 Peter Gonczi Hungary Nimbus 3/25;5m 1912
22. K1 Steffen Keppler Germany Ventus 2C/18m 1874
23. INV Dirk Nieuwenhout Netherlands ASH 25 1854
24. 170 Wojciech Kos Poland Ventus 2C/18m 1776
25. WG Klaus Gerhard Specht Germany Ventus C/17;6m 1758
26. BW1 Patrick Puskeiler Germany Duo Discus 1720
27. BV Volker Polhaus Germany LS 8/18m 1665
28. 71 Thomas Wettemann Germany Ventus 2B 1636
28. DE Michael Eisele Germany Ventus 2A 1636
30. PB Istvan Magyar Hungary Ventus B/16;6m 1531
31. SK László Kapuy Hungary Ventus C/17;6m 1440
32. K5 Marc Puskeiler Germany Duo Discus 1353
33. MA Botond Szabadfi Hungary Nimbus 3T/25;5m 1338
34. BA1 Jan Kovalcik Slovakia Nimbus 2 1301
35. K9 Johannes Breckel Germany Discus 2C/18m 1127
36. VL Freddy Vincent Andersen Denmark ASH 25/>26m 944
37. I Henning Kjersgaard Nielsen Denmark Ventus C/17;6m 884
38. TS Tomasz Smolski Poland Jantar 2/2b 836
39. KW Jorgen Legind Hansen Denmark ASW 20/16;6m 792
40. LM Matthias Luithardt Germany ASH 26 595
41. Z Kim Freund Denmark Janus C with retractable gear 256






> wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm curious what handicap is being used. Any info on that? Is it the
same as for 'non-S' 304 (DAeC index of 110)?
radek.
On Apr 8, 10:27 pm, "Tim Mara" > wrote:
> Petr Krejcirík at the controls of the new 304S (Shark) prototype,( the
> one and only one entered in the competition ), after two days of
> competition is in 1st place in the open class (out of a total of 41
> competitors). Results are on http://www.pribinacup.sk/2007/results/
> Pretty impressive results I might say...
> tim

[Greg Arnold]

On day 3, the 304S beat an ASG-29(18m) (896 points to 890), but the 304s
had a slower speed (81.8 km/h to 83.5 km/h). Not sure what that means,
as there does not appear to be a consistent relationship between speed
and points for even gliders of the same model.



Tim Mara wrote:
> certainly not..... you'll see they handicap some older gliders and there is
> a slight difference in 18M and < and 18m and > but among all the 18 Meter
> gliders the 304S has as you can see the consitantly had some of best actual
> (non-handicapped) overall speeds posted among all gliders in this contest
> being only bettered by very few and then only true open class gliders, not
> by other 18M gliders.
> If you look at the standings after day 3, Petr Krejcirík and the 304S were
> given 33 fewer points than (LS8-18) at the same speed.
> Still after 3 days of competition the 304S remains on top of all in overall
> standings
> I know there are a lot out there watching with interest, and I know
> obviously some hopeing that the 304 doesn't perform as well or outperform
> some of the brand "X" gliders.... for whatever reason... but it's pretty
> hard to ignore this as an already great achievement ....
> tim
>
> PRIBINA CUP 2007 Open Class
> ,
>
> Open - Overall results after Day 3
>
>
> # CN Pilot Country Glider Total
> 1. IH Petr Krejcirík Czech Republic HPH 304S/18m 2873
> 2. CZ Jana Vepreková Czech Republic Ventus 2C/18m 2759
> 3. BB Karol Staryszak Poland SZD 56 Diana 2 2695
> 4. A1 Ales Maraz Slovenia Nimbus 3/25;5m 2624
> 5. HJ Poul Kim Larsen Denmark ASH 25 2573
> 6. 2CI Svend Andersen Denmark ASG 29/18m 2566
> 7. VO Stasys Skalskis Lithuania LAK 17a 2487
> 8. 4T Peter Batenburg Netherlands Nimbus 4 2395
> 9. FX Tibor Fratrik Slovakia LS 8/18m 2367
> 10. ECC Adam Czeladzki Poland LS 8/18m 2364
> 11. GX Peter Szabo Hungary ASH 25EB 2360
> 12. MP Peter Marosi Hungary Ventus 2C/18m 2339
> 13. 12 Josef Busek Czech Republic LAK 12 2325
> 14. 1W Johan Frey Denmark Duo Discus T 2238
> 15. NV Vytautas Maciulis Lithuania LAK 17A/18m 2237
> 16. PBI Jan Walther Gevad Denmark DG 600/18m 2235
> 17. CXI Branislav Jesensky Slovakia Ventus 2C/18m 2194
> 18. ZB Zdzislaw Bednarczuk Poland Ventus 2C/18m 2015
> 19. IR István Réti Hungary Ventus 2C/18m 1967
> 20. LT Lubomír Svoboda Czech Republic LAK 19/18m 1959
> 21. 77 Peter Gonczi Hungary Nimbus 3/25;5m 1912
> 22. K1 Steffen Keppler Germany Ventus 2C/18m 1874
> 23. INV Dirk Nieuwenhout Netherlands ASH 25 1854
> 24. 170 Wojciech Kos Poland Ventus 2C/18m 1776
> 25. WG Klaus Gerhard Specht Germany Ventus C/17;6m 1758
> 26. BW1 Patrick Puskeiler Germany Duo Discus 1720
> 27. BV Volker Polhaus Germany LS 8/18m 1665
> 28. 71 Thomas Wettemann Germany Ventus 2B 1636
> 28. DE Michael Eisele Germany Ventus 2A 1636
> 30. PB Istvan Magyar Hungary Ventus B/16;6m 1531
> 31. SK László Kapuy Hungary Ventus C/17;6m 1440
> 32. K5 Marc Puskeiler Germany Duo Discus 1353
> 33. MA Botond Szabadfi Hungary Nimbus 3T/25;5m 1338
> 34. BA1 Jan Kovalcik Slovakia Nimbus 2 1301
> 35. K9 Johannes Breckel Germany Discus 2C/18m 1127
> 36. VL Freddy Vincent Andersen Denmark ASH 25/>26m 944
> 37. I Henning Kjersgaard Nielsen Denmark Ventus C/17;6m 884
> 38. TS Tomasz Smolski Poland Jantar 2/2b 836
> 39. KW Jorgen Legind Hansen Denmark ASW 20/16;6m 792
> 40. LM Matthias Luithardt Germany ASH 26 595
> 41. Z Kim Freund Denmark Janus C with retractable gear 256
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> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> I'm curious what handicap is being used. Any info on that? Is it the
> same as for 'non-S' 304 (DAeC index of 110)?
> radek.
> On Apr 8, 10:27 pm, "Tim Mara" > wrote:
>> Petr Krejcirík at the controls of the new 304S (Shark) prototype,( the
>> one and only one entered in the competition ), after two days of
>> competition is in 1st place in the open class (out of a total of 41
>> competitors). Results are on http://www.pribinacup.sk/2007/results/
>> Pretty impressive results I might say...
>> tim
>
>

[GK[_1_]]

On Apr 8, 10:27 pm, "Tim Mara" > wrote:
> Petr Krejcirík at the controls of the new 304S (Shark) prototype,( the one and only one entered in the competition ), after two days of competition is in 1st place in the open class (out of a total of 41 competitors). Results are on http://www.pribinacup.sk/2007/results/
> Pretty impressive results I might say...
> tim
>
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> Please visit the Wings & Wheels website atwww.wingsandwheels.com


...competing mostly against Junior pilots.

[Tuno]

A,

Can you tell us what handicap the 304S is assigned, and how it was
decided upon?

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