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Old September 16th 04, 06:40 PM
Leslie Swartz
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Then stop labeling your table "popular vote" and likewise stop claiming that
Gore received more votes than Bush. Both are misleading and simply not
true.

If you want to claim that our current vote counting system is unable to
determine who actually got more votes, but the FEC system has "certified"
the "counted votes" [not votes cast, many of which are never counted] to be
so and so, fine.

Of course, stating the truth plainly makes your whole point even more
irrelevant.

Steve Swartz

"Jack G" wrote in message
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I have no visibility of other posts that included the table I originally
posted - so yes I did ignore what I can not see.

The numbers that count are the official vote counts. The statistical
analysis is an interesting study - but does not change the official count.

Jack


"Leslie Swartz" wrote in message
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Jack:

I suspect that you are the same guy who kept ignoring all the

explanations
before, and kept posting and reposting that table. If so, then the
following is a waste of bandwidth; if not, you might find the following
addition (your omission) illuminating:

Mechanical Tally Error:
Bush: 47.87 +/- 3.23 % (95% two-tailed confidence interval)
Go 48.38 +- 3.23 % (95% two tailed confidence interval)

Ballot Undercount Error, 2% - 7% local 3% estimated average (absentee
etc.
ballots "not counted because they have no material effect on outcome")

So conservatively, the 0.51% difference between the two vote count totals
represents about a standard deviation's worth of difference.

So in other words, we are 80% confident that the true vote count could

have
gone either way; and only 20% confident that Gore's total was actually
higher than Bush's.

Not counting, of course, fraud and/or uncounted ballots. This is just
the
mechanical error of the vote counting machines.

Steve


"Jack G" wrote in message
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From http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm

Popular Vote:

Bush: 50,456,002 47.87%
Go 50,999,897 48.38%

Looks like more to me!

Jack G.

"Leslie Swartz" wrote in message
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Do your homework.


"Jack G" wrote in message
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Art, can you name the other presidents who were elected with less

than
a
majority of the popular vote? Or have you forgotten them?

Jack G.