John- Despite lots of stories, most folks don't truly find
out what Vmax(indicated) for their airframe really is (and that might be
just as well, check out the first Sageburner attempt films). BRBR

Saw the airspeed indicator climb rapidly thru 800 kts on a F-16N(canopy limit
is 800) at Yuma range, popped up, broke a 'few' windows in Yuma..didn't catch
the F-14 I was chasing...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer