On 12/6/03 4:04 PM, in article
, "s.p.i."
wrote:

(Elmshoot) wrote in message
...
Funny thing happened as I scanned this exchange. I checked my logbook and
I've got two hops in 149484 Feb 14 and 21, 1985. PMCF from rework at NADEP
Norfolk.
Hey guys I checked my log book. I have 21 flights in 149482 for 41.9 hours it
was a K in VA-95 during the mid 80's.
Oldest bomber was 149944 in 128 early 80's.
Great planes, Last night I was flying a 727-200 with the big motor conversion
-271 engines on the pods full fuel and 29K cargo .
Going throgh 30,000 feet we were climbing at 3000 FPM at .8 mach. I told the
crew that I never flew a Military plane with that kind of performance As long
as you never went over 30 degrees AOB. I don't know if the test pilots did it
but I bet as clean as the 727 airframe is I bet it will go Mach 1in a dive.

One did in an accidental dive in '79
http://www.thesunlink.com/news/99nov...y/1124b1b.html

Also a production DC-8 went supersonic (this was intentional though)

http://www.dc8.org/library/supersonic/index.php

This must have been written before the DFDR and cockpit tape analysis.
Funny how they're using Hoot's experience to defend the knucklehead FO on
Egypt Air.

I agree that rushing to snap judgments on a mishap is mostly bad, but this
one seemed pretty cut and dried.