But the most fuel weight (regardless of configuration) was 5.1 for an empty
tank 7, 5.8 with it full. No fun was night recovery with 2x2 ordnance and
1/2 flaps (util failure or in my case, a flap switch failure). 1.8 on the
ball for an actual weight pass with about 40 knots of wind.

R / John

"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
robvr- Almost makes sense, mainly because I never flew anything myself,
let
alone a Navy jet. Would 2 and 2 mean 2 Sparrow, 2 Sidewinder? What do
max trap values mean? BRBR

Max trap for the F-4 was 40,000 pounds. Empty F-4S weighed about 34k, F-4J
was
33000 or so. 2 and 2 weighed about 1500 lbs. Only 6000 to play with to get
to
40k. If ya added a 2000 lb gun pod(2000 or 1000??), then max trap fuel was
kinda low.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer