The Navy tried to close NAS Lemoore fourteen months after it opened, but
Congress wouldn't let them.

NAS Meridian was built so John Stennis could have medical and dental care
when Congress was out of session.

The Navy built a new Bureau of Personnel at New Orleans. Senator Ebert died
before it was occupied, so it was given to the Reserves, VA, Social
Security, etc.

Gore got reelected in 1996, so the BuPers move to Millington, Tennessee
survived.

Then, they built a new battle group port at Ingleside. No battle group to
put there, but they couldn't quietly give away an 1,100 foot pier, etc...

And so it goes

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../ingleside.htm

Rick

"John Carrier" wrote in message
...
Found it!

The 25% number tossed around with such certainty is in fact an estimate
base
on ... the relationship between force structure in 1989 (pre cold war) and
its supporting infrastructure and current force structure and its existing
infrastructure.

Sounds good if there's genuinely a linear relationship between the force
and
its infrastructure. May make sense for apples, maybe not so much for
oranges. I think a more interesting and perhaps reliable index might be
total op tempo versus infrastructure.

In an example. Naval Aviation, facing a big-time procurement crunch in
the
years ahead, may well procure a mix of F-18E/F and F-35B/C airframes that
only replaces 60-65% of the existing force. The plan is to increase
utilization of those assets to equal the total op tempo of the larger
force.
So, if op tempo is concentrated on fewer airframes, will logistics support
or pilot requirements differ from those of the larger force? From "in the
trenches" experience I can say unequivocally NO. So the supply tail, the
maintenance effort and the pilot manning (and ergo training) requirements
are undiminished. You might be able to knock down an old hangar or two,
but
runway requirements (a real driver) are undiminished. Airspace
requirements
(the second big driver) are undiminished.

The 800 pound gorilla that hovers over every air station is encroachment.
Miramar and Oceana have to tread lightly. A number of others would have
issues if their tactical/training jet traffic were stepped up or extended
into the evening hours. The Navy has relatively few air stations with
little or no encroachment and/or noise concerns.

Next question: Can anybody tell me why the Navy moved all its mine
warfare
assets from the coasts (where it was located in proximity to the fleets
they
serve) to South Texas?

R / John


"John Carrier" wrote in message
...

I doubt that the 25% is anything more than an estimate spun by those
who
only want to see defense dollars cut... for two reasons: (1) It's a
round
number (suspicious). (2) Many of those sound-bite-type bullets are
made
up.

Possible, even probable. But you never know. The Navy had a thing out
in
the late 90's claiming there was a 21% excess capacity in the Naval Air
Training command and I think that was based on BRAC data calls.

When BRAC '95 was going on, I got to watch the gathering of numbers
for
a
few of the data calls at NAWCWPNS up close and personal. The data
that
comes OUT of BRAC is fairly accurate--at least from the Navy side.
Can't
speak for the blue-suiters, the grunts, or the forces of one. The
observers
of the data calls were fairly strict about gathering accurate,
reproducable,
and verifiable data.

True. I was intimately familiar with the content of the data for TRACOM
and
browsed all of the rest for any NAS or AFB. There were some instances
of
transposed numbers (birdstrike data ... they were THOROUGH!) and a
couple
of
gross misrepresentations (a CNATRA staffer intentionally changed a
formula
multiplier because he KNEW the FAA algorithm was wrong). The USAF
perspective was slightly different, but generated very usable data.

But the old adage "Figures lie and liars figure" is very appropriate to
the
process. The Navy installed their data into a weighted matrix to
generate
a
military value for each base. You'd think that was intended to
determine
the lowest military value and then nominate the base. Not so. The Navy
rule was that the average military value of the bases remaining after
implementation of their proposed scenario must be equal or higher to the
average value for all the bases examined in a particular category. A
base
could be a comparative "winner" in the value matrix and still become
part
of
the proposed closure scenario. This happened in 1993.

The 1995 rules were essentially unchanged. The Navy group, which did
not
get its entire plan approved by the commission in 1993, attacked the
issue
somewhat differently. They kept fiddling the value matrix (documented
in
the minutes) until the numbers fell out the way they wanted (that's my
assumption, but it seems pretty obvious the results were reverse
engineered
to produce the desired outcome). How bad was it? Well, one base got
credit
for an aerial target on which even practice ordnance could not be
expended.

The Navy has a long history (perhaps shared by the other services, but
my
experience doesn't allow that comparison) of generating and manipulating
data to justify/support a decision. The decision has very little input
(except in the form of the data calls) from the operational side of the
Navy. CNO, his deputies, the CINCs, type commanders, etc don't weigh
in.
The process was within DON, headed by a super grade civilian and staffed
by
a mixed bag of civilians and military temporarily assigned to the BRAC
group. I met several of the military types, good folks for the most
part
(albeit there was a Helo captain who hadn't seen the light of day for a
decade or more) but utterly ignorant about the majority of issues they
were
analyzing. They existed to staff the master plan of the big boss. In
most
part, they succeeded.

Given the nature of the current DOD (my way or the highway), I think
we'll
see a similar process in 2005. Rumsfeld's inner cadre has a vision
(I've
finally found a document describing it) of a "transformation" in
military
affairs. I think there's also a vision about the infrastructure that
they
believe is needed to support it. I suspect there's already a pretty
good
idea of which bases conform to this vision and which don't. And I
believe
that the BRAC group within DOD will be directed (perhaps subtly) to
massage
the data to support that vision.

There's no list, but you're on it.

R / John