On 12/8/04 2:27 PM, in article , "John
Carrier" wrote:


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 12/8/04 12:18 AM, in article
, "F9pnthr"
wrote:

The cover of current issue of The Hook shows four LSOs, two of whom are
using
their stopwatches. For what part of the landing are they starting and
stopping
their watches?

At least one back up paddles or writer will time groove length for the
pass
(15-17 seconds) and interval. That's part of the debrief.

Wow, times change. They run a clock vice trust the controlling LSO's
judgement?


Trick is... Where does the groove start? e.g. wings level slimin' over on a
(AA)?

Outside of 21 seconds, and you'll get a fair for LIG (Long in the Groove).
Inside of 11 and you'll get a fair for NESA (not enough straightaway).

No more attaboys for a combat groove, eh?


As long as it's greater than 11 seconds you're okay. Oh yes, I sort of
misspoke. It's an automatic DOWNGRADE if you goon up groove length.

R / John

I sympathize. I remember LSO's eyeball-checking groove length and interval,
but my last cruise was the first I've ever seen the stop watch. Again with
the fuzzy definition of where the groove starts, I sort of looked at that
stat with a jaundiced eye.

In the past, the boss was the guy that cared about interval, so he was the
one hammering guys if they were too tight on the jet in front of them. Now
paddles is in on the game too.

Finally, the SH break (stern or prior doing big bills on the speed) will
still buy you an upgrade if you don't screw up your groove, interval, or fly
a heinous pass (and depending on the boss's mood).

--Woody