"petem" wrote in message
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"petem" wrote in message
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well look like the lack of wmd in irak proove that the resolution that
the
UN passed was enforced...

No proof of that at all


Well dont you think that if there would have been some WMD somewhere in
Irak
it would have been found?
are you telling me that they disolved in thin air while the attack?

Actually they did find several shells with WMD right after the war, if I had
to guess I'd say Syria now has them now


And who was working for the oil-rich countries before becoming the
president?

If you mean Bush I believe he was working for the Texas Rangers before
becoming govenor although you are free to bring up the usual conspiracy
theories

no he had about 40% ownership in the texas ranger...he was not working for
them....are you telling me that someone like him would only have 1
occupation in life?

You haven't mentioned what he did for "oil right countries" yet



France is one of the biggest offender in much of this, because of it's
stagnant economy they are constantly selling components commonly used in
weapons (conventional, nuclear and biological) to whoever will pay the
bill,
same with Germany and Russia


and the USA dont sell weapon? never sold any weapon to saddam?
never helped osama with its war against russia? remeber the what reagan
had
to deal with some rebelious poeple ..the contra(ore something like that?)

No question about that however France made an art out of it over the past 2
decades and still does


The fact is France, Germany and Russia were against the war for one
reason,
Iraq was a customer

of them AND a costumer of the USA

Not as of 2003


Now invasion again..there are MANY ways to deal with an other country then
to invade it..
big biceps no brain...

Such as? Oh wait...sanctions? yea that worked great eh?

Killing someone as a punishment for crimes is as intelligent as beating
a
few month old baby cause he cries..

Now thats a brilliant analogy, a baby doesn't know any better while a
serial
killer tends to understand what he does wrong

The point is that in both situation its a useless use of force...

I wouldn't say it was useless, Saddam is gone, Bin Laden is on the run and
both Iraq and Afghanistan held elections, then again if we did it your way
they'd still be run by the former dictators

what would you fear more...the rest of your life with no way of gaining
freedom,behing bars 24/24 or behing killed after a few years by a shot?
i was go insane pretty fast being behind bars for a long period..

if i kill someone and have to think about it in a cell for the rest of my
life or being killed i would choose death...thats the easy way out..
so you are putting it easier for murderer..

Thanks but I'd rather not pay to have that guy sit in a cell for the rest of
his life thinking about it and you assume they will feel guilty thinking
about it, instead they will just adapt to the new environment and likely
kill someone in prison

It prevents those individuals from doing it again, I'd say it reduces
crime
by 100%

but its still not lowering the crime rates..

Who cares what it does to the crime rate? That moron is out of the picture,
my only complaint with the death penalty is it takes too long to implement

I don't say that, I'd say you are much like many on the left who believe
loony conspiracy theories or have such a hatred for Bush that they
blindly
believe many of the stories floating out there


you always talk about stories...dont you think that part of are true?

From what I'd seen by the loony left very few

911 was because you let thing go out of countrol after putting your big
nose
in someone else mess..

Bin Laden planned 9/11 because we had troops in Saudi Arabia due of the
first iraq war, funny how Bin Laden didn't fly any planes into Bagdad
buildings when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 but I guess thats not how it
works in their world

BTW: Doing nothing also tends to create extremists

No doing nothing after helping exetremist group getting organized is what
created Osama

I'd say they aren't too organized now are they?

American troops are not welcome in any part of Irak..

Give me proof of that, I can find countless stories claiming otherwise


i see a lot of bombing....

I have a feeling thats all you want to see


Yes thats why they were able to vote last week

wow!!! vote!! they are free!! come on..how could they vote freely when
they
were afraid of being killed

If I recall they didn't HAVE to vote, then again in the past they didn't
have that option, at least a real option


Like North Korea usually the son/sons take his place, now that would
have
been fun wouldn't it?

In haiti the son didnt last long and every thing feel down..

And Haiti is still a mess and will be a mess for decades to come, it also
wasn't an oil rich nation that could bribe those nice UN officials

could have happen with some diplomacy work in the back...using brains...no
biceps..

I think the UN tried that for the last 10 years, didn't really work very
well