"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message
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"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message
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well look like the lack of wmd in irak proove that the resolution that
the
UN passed was enforced...

No proof of that at all


Well dont you think that if there would have been some WMD somewhere in
Irak
it would have been found?
are you telling me that they disolved in thin air while the attack?

Actually they did find several shells with WMD right after the war, if I
had
to guess I'd say Syria now has them now

How old were they?10 years?

no he had about 40% ownership in the texas ranger...he was not working
for
them....are you telling me that someone like him would only have 1
occupation in life?

You haven't mentioned what he did for "oil right countries" yet


The fact is France, Germany and Russia were against the war for one
reason,
Iraq was a customer

of them AND a costumer of the USA

Not as of 2003

When did the towers collapsed? 2001? what happened in between?



Now invasion again..there are MANY ways to deal with an other country
then
to invade it..
big biceps no brain...

Such as? Oh wait...sanctions? yea that worked great eh?

show me the WMD


Killing someone as a punishment for crimes is as intelligent as
beating
a
few month old baby cause he cries..

Now thats a brilliant analogy, a baby doesn't know any better while a
serial
killer tends to understand what he does wrong

The point is that in both situation its a useless use of force...

I wouldn't say it was useless, Saddam is gone, Bin Laden is on the run and
both Iraq and Afghanistan held elections, then again if we did it your way
they'd still be run by the former dictators

on the run? he is much more free then you think...and you are helping him
find more crazy teen to supply kamikaze bomber..


what would you fear more...the rest of your life with no way of gaining
freedom,behing bars 24/24 or behing killed after a few years by a shot?
i was go insane pretty fast being behind bars for a long period..

if i kill someone and have to think about it in a cell for the rest of my
life or being killed i would choose death...thats the easy way out..
so you are putting it easier for murderer..

Thanks but I'd rather not pay to have that guy sit in a cell for the rest
of
his life thinking about it and you assume they will feel guilty thinking
about it, instead they will just adapt to the new environment and likely
kill someone in prison

thats were you dont have any imagination..(or to much of it..) i think that
the ass hole that killed should be left in hole in a very bad
situation....like France prison a few decade ago...for wuss they knew how to
treat criminals...



It prevents those individuals from doing it again, I'd say it reduces
crime
by 100%

but its still not lowering the crime rates..

Who cares what it does to the crime rate? That moron is out of the
picture,
my only complaint with the death penalty is it takes too long to implement

ok crime rate are uninportant...ok its true its better to wack someone skull
cause he wacked some sckull then to prevent the first blow..


I don't say that, I'd say you are much like many on the left who
believe
loony conspiracy theories or have such a hatred for Bush that they
blindly
believe many of the stories floating out there


you always talk about stories...dont you think that part of are true?

From what I'd seen by the loony left very few

911 was because you let thing go out of countrol after putting your big
nose
in someone else mess..

Bin Laden planned 9/11 because we had troops in Saudi Arabia due of the
first iraq war, funny how Bin Laden didn't fly any planes into Bagdad
buildings when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 but I guess thats not how it
works in their world

what was Bin laden BEFORE that? what was he doing?
for koweit he had no time to do nothing the big boys were allready there in
a few days..


BTW: Doing nothing also tends to create extremists

No doing nothing after helping exetremist group getting organized is what
created Osama

I'd say they aren't too organized now are they?

why the security alert went to almost red during the election? organized or
not? if so why rase the level?


American troops are not welcome in any part of Irak..

Give me proof of that, I can find countless stories claiming otherwise


i see a lot of bombing....

I have a feeling thats all you want to see

well i listen to some news channel that are not american controled..must be
the difference in point of view


Yes thats why they were able to vote last week

wow!!! vote!! they are free!! come on..how could they vote freely when
they
were afraid of being killed

If I recall they didn't HAVE to vote, then again in the past they didn't
have that option, at least a real option

and it made a so large difference in ther life...in the next 10 year there
will be more inocent killed then in the last 30 years of sadam regime..





Like North Korea usually the son/sons take his place, now that would
have
been fun wouldn't it?

In haiti the son didnt last long and every thing feel down..

And Haiti is still a mess and will be a mess for decades to come, it also
wasn't an oil rich nation that could bribe those nice UN officials

no oil, the american had nothing to gain so they didnt cared..but still its
there neighbor


could have happen with some diplomacy work in the back...using
brains...no
biceps..

I think the UN tried that for the last 10 years, didn't really work very
well

Show me the WMD!!!!!!(repeat adnauseam) like "show me the money" in the
american film Jerry McGuire