(Rich Stowell) wrote in message
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That said, here's what I've got for the Piper PA-28-140 and PA-28-180
airplanes, excerpted from my stall/spin due for publication in 2004.

Hope this helps,


Rich,

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Can't wait for the book to
come out. I have a question, though.

The PA28-180 section makes repeated references to the fact that
intentional spins are prohibited. I don't think that is right.
There were several versions of the PA28-180 and some do indeed
prohibit intentional spins (primarily the stretched versions with
beginning with ser# 28-7305001). I own an earlier version ('68 180D,
ser# 28-4474) that is approved for intentional spins in the utility
category. This is according to the AFM and associated placards on the
aircraft. Specifically, the Operating Limitations placard refers to
entry speeds for manuevers approved in the utility category. Spins
are included, along with chandelles, lazy 8s, etc... I have flown
other PA28-180s, some older, some newer, that have the same placard
(these were not versions subject to AD 74-26-07). Am I missing
something?

A couple of notes on the chapter :

The 1st sentence under the PA28-140 section mentions Warriors. The
Warriors were actually PA28-151/161 models produced under sections XIV
& XVI of TCDS 2A13.

The PA28-180 under section XII of the TCDS was sold as the
Challenger ('73) and Archer ('74 &'75). This is the stretched version
(no-spins) affected by AD 74-26-02. Earlier PA28-180 versions
produced under section III of the TCDS were sold as the Cherokee.

Thanks again,

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)