Sydney

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 02:06:29 GMT, Sydney Hoeltzli
wrote:

Big John wrote:

Thread started, taking about the 'JC' (Jesus Christ) maneuver in a SE.

Thought it started talking about a student pranging a plane by letting
it porpoise (that what you mean by JC maneuver?
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"JC", yes, it's a common expression in the Air Force (probably Navy
and Marines also) when the pilot gets 180 degrees behind the
oscillations of an aircraft and excursions get bigger and bigger until
something comes unglued (breaks nose wheel off, etc).
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Judah then injected ME training into the thread and shutting a engine
down. I responded to her ME comment.

Here is the entirety of Judah's post to which you were responding.
I see absolutely nothing whatsoever in it about ME training nor
shutting the engine down specifically in a ME plane. But feel free
to direct it to my attention if you feel I missed it. Judah wrote:
When training for spins, do you actually put the plane into one?

WHEN TRAINING FOR ENGINE OUT, DO YOU ACTUALLY TURN OF THE MAGS?

When training for partial panel, do you actually turn off the master?
When training for failed pitot-static do you actually block the
pitot tube and/or static ports?
I'd hate to think how you train your students for an engine or wing
fire!
There's plenty of flight training that goes on without actual
demonstration. You can call it whatever you want...

Feel free to borrow my glasses. I put the sentence in all caps to help
you read. Just what training for "engine out" do YOU do in a SE
aircraft?


Nope, don't see a thing in there about ME training. Maybe in another
"branch" of the thread, but if so, don't assume that's what's being
discussed in this branch. If you feel I missed it, point it out...
whole post available on http://www.groups.google.com

If you intended your comment to apply only to ME training, makes
much more sense. But nothing in Judah's post, nor your post,
indicated this restriction that I could find.

Best,
Sydney

Bottom line is that training should be as close to what happens during
flight as possible and within safe limits. What are safe limits might
be argued but some of us know that spins, stalls, engine out , etc.
practice (training) all makes better, safer pilots during his/her
flying career.

Big John