You wouldn't from the scope, but there are plenty of days when the
conditions are well known. Do you mean you have no idea what the cloud
conditions are as a controller? Not such that you can decide if he is
violating VFR, but enough to know, at least in your own head, that there is
no way this guy is VMC...


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Michael 182" wrote in message
news:U6Ylb.5040$ao4.10373@attbi_s51...

C'mon - if it's solid deck from 300' up to 5000' and he's at 1200', it
is
pretty obvious. Maybe not legally enforcable, but obvious.


Yeah, that's obvious, but how can you tell it's solid deck from 300' to
5000' by looking at a radar scope?