John Galban wrote:

That's interesting. It would seem that all of the tower controllers
out there do not know this. I've witnessed more than one go around
instigated by a tower because another plane was just over the hold
short bars (but not on the runway proper).

That controller is an idiot.


Just a few weeks ago I
heard the tower telling a student pilot that he could not land any
more traffic on the runway until the student moved his airplane 3 ft.
to clear the bars.

We will tell the students what they are supposed to do, and that is to
stay behind the hold line. But if an airplane crosses the line do you
start sending traffic around? Not in a million years.



To be fair, I've only noticed this hyper-picky behavior since the FAA
started that runway incursion program several years back.

Tower managers who come from Centers are the worst to deal with.
They're all hot and bothered about trivialities like hold lines and
generally make life difficult for a tower controller. We had one here
for a few years, he really made the union membership rise.