"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
"Tom S." wrote in message
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| However, the topic needs to be discussed. There appear to be a number of
| deluded individuals that think being forced to work without pay is a
good
| thing. Personally, I think it is theft and, at bottom, an offense as
serious
| as murder.
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| "Forced"? Someone is holding a gun on them? Holding their family hostage?
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Essentially, yes. Some employers tell their employees that they have to work
for free 'or else.' The 'or else' usually means your family suffers.

What is the threat? What is the 'or else'? 'Or you will be fired'?
This is hardly slavery and *nothing* remotely similar to theft (and to
compare it to murder is absurd).

When I tell a store owner 'If you can't get your prices down, I'll
have to go elsewhere.' I'm giving him an 'or else'. And I am totally
within my rights. When my employer tells me I need to increase my
productivity, or he'll have to let me go, he's giving me an 'or else'.
And he's totally within his rights.

If my employer tells me I have do do XYZ job 'for free' or he'll let
me go, then it is my *choice* whether I'm going to do it or not.
Nobody elses. Period. Not theft, not slavery, but *choice*. I've quit
jobs before because I didn't want to comply with their demans, and
I've done things at jobs I didn't love to do, because I preferred
doing those things to the alternatives. In the end it is my choice.

If you think the threat of being fired is akin to blackmail or theft,
then you must also think that threatening to leave (as an employee)
for more money if the company won't give me a raise is the same,
right? I mean there is a 'threat' that if my demands are not met, then
I'll do something harmful to the company. Do I have the right to do
this? Obviously I do.

This is just silly. If your company wants you to do something you
don't want to, you have the option of quitting. Slaves don't have the
option of quitting. People being robbed don't have the option of not
being robbed. But as an employee, I certainly have the right to quit.
Might it hurt my family if I do? Sure. But I'm the one making that
choice. Find somebody who is a *real* victim of theft, and ask them
about the level of choice they had in the matter.

Cheers,

Cap