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Old November 13th 03, 10:45 PM
Ron Natalie
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"John T" wrote in message ws.com...


I was in the same meeting with Ron when he was discussing the lack of
charting. All of this was mentioned then - not very lightly, I might add -
with reps from NACO, FSDO and ATC. They are fully aware of the frustration
we pilots are feeling, but the minions we had by the scruff of the neck are
powerless bureaucrats.

Yes, conspicuosly absent was anybody from the security agencies.