I can understand why you feel you need to capitalize the "G" on god, but why
do you have to capitalize the "H" in "he?"

mike regish

"Robert Perkins" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:16:52 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:


Sadly, I must conclude that you are sincere. I know this is going down
an
off-topic sink hole, but I would be interested to hear another pilot (I
assume you are a pilot, if you're here?) give a cogent, logical,
scientifically-proven defense of your beliefs.

Is that possible?

About the only thing I could accomplish on those terms is to relegate
all belief systems, including atheisms and agnosticisms, to the
logical scrap heap.

Except *mine*, of course, since *mine* makes perfect sense to *me*.
(Except where it doesn't, but like many believers I usually don't
worry that I have all the answers to all the questions.) But you've
defined away (maybe) the possibility of accepting premises you're not
willing to accept, the effort is probably fruitless.

BTAIM, the central notion in my own belief system is that no matter
what else, prayer works. I'm not talking about this or that form of
prayer. I'm not talking about asking for any old thing from God and
getting it. There's no magic set of words, and the conclusion is not
based on one lightning moment of conversion, it's based on a lifetime
of doing it. I'm talking about building a relationship with a real
person.

Simply that God is real, that He's pretty tolerant of
misunderstandings about Him, and that if you want to know more, He'll
lead you to the truth. He isn't described completely in any book of
scripture I know about, *including* the Bible. He hasn't invested
Godlike Flawlessness in any man, to lead us all to Heaven, though I do
not deny the notion that He inspires men, and even organizes them,
when He has something He wants to show us all.

I know that's not much to go on, but personally I don't have
stewardship over any other adult's decisions. Can't make you do
anything. Can't prove God exists or doesn't exist, since the only
experimentation I know about depends very unscientifically on the
motivations of the experimenter. The results manifest not in physical
phenomena, but in feeling coupled with clear thinking. If it improves
the quality of your life and becomes precious to you, God is the
source of it.

Sorry.

Rob

--
[You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them
ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to
educate themselves.

-- Orson Scott Card