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Old November 25th 03, 10:00 PM
Jon Woellhaf
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Thank you for clearing this up once and for all g!

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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Well. if we want to pick nits (and isn't that what all
"logging" threads are about :-), the pilot in the right seat
can log Top Dog time if the sole manipulator in the right
seat 1) is not PIC (by agreement), 2) can't be PIC (not
instrument rated, no medical, etc.) *and* 3) is not a pilot
(has no pilot certificate of any type).


Nope. TopDog is not loggable. Only HOT is loggable. If you're Top Dog

(and
the situation is right) you log HOT, not Top Dog.

That's my point. HOT is what is loggable, TopDog is what you are.

I also think you meant "left" the second time you said "right".

Further, the *and* makes little sense. I think you menat "or". After

all, if
the person in question is not a pilot, he can't be PIC anyway. And in any
case, you are mixing up PIC with TopDog and HOT. The point of doing

TopDog and
HOT is to get away from the "PIC" word and express the same idea in a less
ambiguous context.

If the left seat person is not a pilot, OR isn't Top Dog, then the right

seat
person has to be Top Dog. (that is, assuming there are only two dogs

involved
But Top Dog doesn't get logged. Only HOT gets logged. Sometimes the

Top
Dog can log HOT.

There can only be one Top Dog. However, in some cases both can log HOT.

In
some cases, nobody can log HOT (something I find bizzare, but then again,

this
is the FAA). But nobody ever logs Top Dog.

Jose



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