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Old November 25th 03, 10:24 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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ATC never used the C-word. While PanAm was still taxiing on the runway KLM
was told, "OK. Standby for takeoff. I will call you." KLM then began
takeoff roll, ATC's next transmission was to PanAm:


KLM: KLM 4805 is now ready for takeoff, and we're waiting for our ATC clearance.
TWR: KLM 8705 you are CLEARED to the papa beacon climb to and maintain
flight level 290 right turn after take-off proceed with heading 040 until
intercepting the 305 radial from Las Palmas VOR.
KLM: Roger sir, we're cleared to the Papa Beacon flight level 90, right turn out
050 until intercepting the 305 and we're now at take-off.
TWR: OK. Stand by for take-off, I will call you.
PAN: We're still taxiing down the runway, Clipper 1736

They did use the C word in delivering the IFR clearance. The CVR out of the
KLM shows the captain saying (in Dutch) "we're going" between the OK and
the Stand By instruction.