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Old November 29th 03, 02:09 PM
Kyler Laird
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Big John writes:

O.k., fuel exhaustion, air starvation, misfueling, ... are no longer
causes of "engine failures". Now to come up with a name for what
people mean when they talk about undesired engine stoppage...


How about "Pilot induced engine failures" and "Mechanical engine
failures" or "Non Pilot induced engine failures"?


Nope. Those would still be "... engine failures." As Peter has
argued (I think) successfully, they're not failures of the engine.
The difference between such stoppages and the ones we experience
upon shutdown is the intention of the pilot.

I should have consulted the NTSB earlier. Here's a report of a
plane that went down around here recently.
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...26X00574&key=1
I'm referring to that because I recall (perhaps incorrectly) people
calling it a forced landing due to "engine failure."

Hmmm...how about "engine mismanagement"? (I'm willing to be liberal
with the use of "manage" to include "So...you managed to fly into
quite a bit of ice there...")

I think I'll at least start saying "engine mechanical failure" in an
attempt to be more a bit more clear.

--kyler