You are so out of touch. Tell me. Bush keeps saying that war is a last
resort. If he meant that, then why didn't he at least give the inspections a
chance. You can't honestly say that he did. Had he given them the time they
(and we "Bush haters") wanted, and Iraq was found to be in serious
non-compliance, all these "Bush-haters" would have been behind this war,
even though it was just a diversion.

I'll admit, I can't stand the guy. He's as phony as a three dollar bill. But
war was not a last resort for him. It was a given. If he could admit that,
I'd have at least a little respect for him. If he could say, in light of the
lack of WMD with total access, in light of the absence of any connection to
9/11, that maybe he should have waited instead of rushing to war, I would
have an easier time supporting this war. But he can't-or rather, won't.
Neither can you. He just keeps changing the reason, and you just keep
following along like sheep. And even if he did, that doesn't change the fact
the this war was to divert attention from his failure in Afghanistan. Now
he's got 2 major failures and you can't admit that, even in hindsight. Not
even a little.And none of what you say about what I'm supposedly furious
about is even close to the truth. It just further demonstrates your refusal,
or inability, to deal with reality.

I used to be an independent. Now I see how truly ugly the republicans are.
In all these discussions, almost without exception, the Bush lovers-almost
all republicans-are the first to get derisive and start throwing epithets. I
guess that's what you have to do when the facts overwhelm your position. The
"Bush-haters" as you call us, seem to be able to discuss differences,
probably because we have reality on our side.

As for the money comment, it seems also, that the more money one has, the
more in favor of Bush one is. I wonder why?

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
news:nq8Ab.311733$ao4.1062502@attbi_s51...
| You are without a doubt the most contemptuous, hateful and outright
arrogant
| person I've yet run into, and there are some doozies in the pro-bush
tribe.
| Get off your high horse and get in touch with reality at some point in
your
| miserable life.
|

I am not sure what you are saying -- honestly. Are you contending that we
are looting Iraq, raping the women, and bringing our soldiers home loaded
with Iraqi TVs (as Iraq did to Kuwait)? If not, what do you think we are
doing there?

You have not been following this news group for very long if you think I
am
an enthusiastic supporter of Bush. However, when he is right he deserves
credit for it.

Now, I will tell you what I think is contemptuous, hateful, and outright
arrogant: the anti-Bush clowns who can't stand the thought that the man
could possibly do anything right. They are absolutely foaming at the mouth
over it. They are furious that we have not begun looting Iraqi oil fields.
They are absolutely incensed that our soldiers are doing everything
possible
to not appear to be an occupying force -- even endangering their own lives
to do it. The anti-Bush crowd is livid that not only are we not looting
the
country, but we have no intention of allowing France, Germany, or Russia
to
loot the country, either. And the thing that gets them the most -- Bush
appears to actually be sincere about his reasons for invading Iraq and he
appears determined to make good on his promises there.

Now, I think it is extremely hateful, contemptuous, and arrogant to wish
that our own soldiers who are faithfully serving our country will meet
disaster just to serve the anti-Bush crowd's political agenda and give
Bush
a black eye.

| I don't plonk anybody, but that may just change. I'm sure that will
break
| your heart.

If the truth hurts, you should probably plonk me. In any event, I have the
same opinion of you that you have of me. In fact, my opinion of you is
even
lower. However, I will not plonk you. I don't feel it necessary to only
read
posts from people who agree with me. However, I understand your need to
avoid opinions dissenting from your own point of view, so don't be ashamed
if you have such a weak character.

|
| I'll bet you make a lot of money.
|

How much money I make is none of your business. However, I am retired and
devote my time to flight instructing, so I arguably make no money at all.
:-)