"Michael Nouak" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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You mean: USA wouldn't have joined into the war without the Japanese
agression? I doubt that the USA would have remained neutral as there
have
been some
attackes by german submarines in US ports and en-route on the Atlantic
and
the US more and more supporting England.

Well, in many ways Hitler was a fool (attacking the U.S.S.R before
finishing
off Great Britain, for example, was just plain stupid), but I don't
think
he
would have drawn the U.S. into the war by choice.

German and American naval forces were duking it out in the North Atlantic
before 7 Dec 41, which IMO would have led to the US eventually entering
the
war at some point. The USS Greer attacked, and was then counter-attacked
by,
a U-Boat in September (I think), and the USS Reuben James was sunk late
October. The question is, would the US have entered the war soon enough to
make a difference without the Japanese attack?

IMO, most of the credit for winning the war in Europe should go to the
Brits, for having the stamina to hold out for as long as they did. If they
had lost it in '40 or early '41, the world would definitely be a different
place today. As it was, they held out long enough for a) Hitler to invade
Russia ("How to Throw Away Your Resources 101"), and for b) the US to
throw
its industrial might into the fight. The combined Russian and American war
efforts then eventually turned the tide against Germany, leading to a
sound
defeat. There's no telling what would have happened if it had been just
England and Russia, or England and America. Why France is considered a
"victor" nation, I don't know.

Mike

Politics - the French were and always have been a total waste of space and
were mightily ****ed off went he British sunk their navy after they
surrendered.

The French have always resented the English speakers for liberating France
and standing up to the Germans.

Even today with the European Union. the French are the poodles of the
Germans.

Dave