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Old December 14th 03, 06:58 AM
R. Hubbell
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On 13 Dec 2003 22:41:09 GMT ackatyu (Wdtabor) wrote:

In article atICb.2786$pY.316@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
writes:


If you're so sure you can manage that forest better than them for the long
haul, then buy the forrests from them and manage them yourself, or through

some
like minded organization. If you're right, you'll make a big profit and

retire
rich.


We would need to show them that managing their forest themselves is key.
Give people responsibiliy and they'll become responsible.


In other words, tell them how to live and how to use their property.



No, not in other words, in those words. We teach them. You know
"give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach him, he eats for a lifetime...."
Maybe useful to add... Teach him to manage the fishery and his children and
their children eat and so on and on.

Traditionally, the way that is done is to conquer and colonize the land those
foolish and ignorant savages live on and take control of their lives away from
them. Ask the British about that, they have more experience at it than us.


Ok, I see now you're caught up in traditions. Well traditions don't fit anymore.


BTW retiring rich or poor is not for me. Seen too many people fall of the
radar
forever after retiring. But yeah helping other countries manage their
natural
resources wouldn't certainly be a welcome challenge for me. That's a great




*** Actually I meant "would certainly be a welcome challenge for me." ***



idea. A steward for the planet.


And in return for your wise and benevolent stewardship, all you ask is absolute
power over the lives and property of others.


I ask for nothing in return, only the satisfaction of helping them achieve
ecological and economical balance. Costa Rica is a great example of that
right now.




But don't tell them to literally bet their lives your way is better while
absorbing none of the risk yourself.


They've already bet their lives on the current scheme and if they don't
turn back they will lose.

Why, it worked for us?


But has it? It hasn't been long enough to tell for sure. In fact I think it's
long of tooth. Why else would we spend 85 billion in Iraq? Got to keep the
money moving through the economy somehow. A jobless recovery indeed. It's
jobless in the states but there'll be plenty of jobs in Iraq.



We plundered the capital of the land and forrest to get our start and built on
that a nation that feeds and employs the world.


Interesting view point. Lucklily there are enough people that care about the
land that we just might be able to save some of the ecosystem.




The market will determine who was right in the long haul.


Maybe you have not noticed the "market" that you oversimplyfyingly refer to
has decided. It won't work, it doesn't work. But from your point of view
it seems to work great. You get your $5 dollar picture frame. The get a
barren landscape devoid of life and not useful to anyone.


They get a start toward what we have.



You mean the power to consume the world's resources at an alarming rate?
Not a very fulfilling goal.

So they can in turn exploit some other people of their natural resources
and culture? It's a cycle that they need to learn is not sustainable.
We should show them.


R. Hubbell


Don

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