well... I've been there.. Sounds like your "ALTRV" is the low level route?

Now you know what I used to fly..

BT

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BTIZ wrote:



except for the initial departure, climb corridors, and arrival tracks..
that
were part of all of my ALTRVs... well.. actually I guess that was part
of
the IFR clearance.. with a control time at the "start ALTRV" point at
altitude.. once in the ALTRV, and on time, ATC no longer assumes
responsibility for separation within the ALTRV (MARSA).. ATC only keeps
those not on the ALTRV clear..

We see ALTRV all the time. B-1's and B-52's circle BIL all the time at
about 40 miles out at 25 AGL. We have to make sure aircraft are above
the bombers at 37 DME from the VOR, which isn't a problem because nobody
is ever that low that far from us. But we get traffic count to keep the
pay up.