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Old December 26th 03, 05:47 AM
Chuck Gerlach
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This is ludicrous. I live in the far, far western Chicago suburbs and I
couldn't tell you where Olive Park is. And the C172 I fly out of DPA doesn't
have a GPS or a DME. From the air I couldn't find Ashland or Irving Park
Roads. Unless I fly low enough to read street signs.

Does anyone else think references to the EISENHOWER, DAN RYAN and KENNEDY
expressways are silly since aviation charts don't have these references? I
had to pull out the State Farm Road Atlas to find references to these names.
(Also found Olive Park. It's between the Water Filtration Plant and the
beach just north of Navy Pier.)

Once again Chicago is an embarrassment. Even if there was a creditable
threat, the size and description of this TFR does very little if anything to
lessen the risk. I'm sorry. All this has been said before. It's just
frustrating.

Chuck Gerlach


"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:N0IGb.40580$m83.4399@fed1read01...
it's to keep the light aircraft out of range of the stormtroopers mayorD

had
posted along the city boundaries... how'd that movie go?? "Escape from

NY"

BT

"Ben Smith" wrote in message
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Nice! Hopefully anyone travelling this popular route checked NOTAMS

before
launching today.

3/2133 (#2) IL.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CHICAGO, IL. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 99.7, SPECIAL SECURITY
INSTRUCTIONS, EXCEPT FOR MEDEVAC, LAW ENFORCEMENT, RESCUE/RECOVERY,
EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND FIRE FIGHTING OPERATIONS, ALL VFR FLIGHT

OPERATIONS
ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN AN AREA BEGINNING ON THE LAKE MICHIGAN SHORE LINE
(415232N/ 873658W OR THE CHICAGO O''HARE /ORD/ VOR/DME 115.4 DEGREE

RADIAL/
14.6 DME), THEN WEST VIA THE EISENHOWER EXPRESSWAY TO THE INTER- SECTION

OF
THE DAN RYAN EXPRESSWAY (415232N/873844W OR THE ORD 118 DEGREE RADIAL AT
13.4 DME) THEN NORTH VIA THE DAN RYAN/ KENNEDY TO THE INTERSECTION OF
ASHLAND AVENUE (415454N/874004W OR ORD 110.2 DEGREE RADIAL AT 11.5 DME)

THEN
NORTH VIA ASHLAND TO THE INTER- SECTION OF IRVING PARK ROAD

(415716N/874010W
OR ORD 098.6 DEGREE RADIAL AT 10.7 DME) THEN EAST VIA IRVING PARK TO

LAKE
MICHIGAN SHORELINE (415718/873828W OR ORD 097.4 DEGREE RADIAL AT 12 DME)
THEN SOUTH VIA THE SHORELINE EXCLUDING OLIVE PARK AND NAVY PIER TO THE

POINT
OF BEGINNING AT AND BELOW 3000 FEET AGL UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC. AL

PEREZ,
773-838-0677, IS THE POINT OF CONTACT. ELGIN TRACON, (847) 608-5654, IS

THE
FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. WIE UNTIL UFN

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y