Yep. I used to work for Piper at the factory in Vero Beach. They kept a small
fleet of planes that employees could rent for more or less the cost of gas. My
favorite was the Turbo Seminole. Tricked out with air conditioning, weather
radar, 3-axis, and HSI. Had the typical Piper turbo setup (popoff valve
prevented overboost) but was carbureted. IIRC, it pulled 39 inches on takeoff.
Man, that thing would climb! It was one real sweet flying bird. A bitch to start
hot, even though it wasn't injected. I don't think they sold many turbo
versions. Most were sold as ME trainers, so no turbo needed (or wanted).

Best regards,

Steve Robertson
N4732J 1967 Beechcraft A23-24 Musketeer

"H. Adam Stevens" wrote:

yup
with carbs
PA-44-180T
nice bird, bad trainer, stopping turbo oil flow is expensive
H.

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:V22Kb.46492$m83.22591@fed1read01...
Bob... my copy of the Seminole POH and the one I've flown, PA-44-180,
carbureted, Non-Turbo... CR Prop.. O-360-E4A6D and LO-360-E1A6D, I was not
aware that the Seminole and a "Turbo" model.

I may be wrong, but I would think most "turbo" would be fuel injected,
unless it's an after market add-on.

BT


"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:dM1Kb.734123$HS4.5571204@attbi_s01...
[If I read my Blue Book correctly, these are turbocharged, carbureted
engines: TO-360s]

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 53505 Make/Model: PA44 Description: PA-44
Seminole,
Turbo Seminole
Date: 01/02/2004 Time: 0235

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N
Missing:
N
Damage: Destroyed

LOCATION
City: CAVE JUNCTION State: OR Country: US

DESCRIPTION
PILOT REQUESTED LOWER ALTITUDE ENROUTE IFR OAK-OTH. APPROXIMATELY 30
NE
OF
CEC, PILOT DECLARED AN EMERGENCY, LOSING POWER, STATED INDUCTION
ICING.
NEAREST AIRPORT, ILLINOIS VALLEY, SELECTED AS EMERGENCY FIELD. PILOT
UNABLE
TO MAINTAIN ALTITUDE, GIVEN VECTORS TO THE AIRPORT. SHERIFF REPORTED
AIRCRAFT DOWN NEAR AIRPORT, 1 FATAL, 3 SERIOUS. CAVE JUNCTION, OR

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 3 Fat: 0 Ser: 3 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: KCEC 020256Z AUTO 30009KT 10SM SCT027 BKN034 BKN065 06/03 A2991
RMK
AO2
RAE11


OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Cruise Operation: General Aviation

Departed: (OAK) Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: (OTH) Flt Plan: IFR Wx
Briefing:
Y
Last Radio Cont: 0230 30NE CEC
Last Clearance: DESCENT CLEARANCE

FAA FSDO: PORTLAND, OR (NM09) Entry date: 01/02/2004