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Old January 8th 04, 04:31 AM
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I'm an IFR student working on my Rating.
(Check ride scheduled in 12 days)

Early on I used microsoft flight simulator to fly an approach to
almost every airport in So Cal.

AXV is the only one where I crashed.
I caught a glimpse of the runway out of the "virtual" window,
while trying to circle ito land I hit the same mountain in about the
same place.

It got my attention.








On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:25:04 -0800, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

On 7 Jan 2004 12:33:57 -0800 (Snowbird) wrote:

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message news:pMLKb.102181$pY.83466@fed1read04...

I wonder about having pax when shooting approaches. Seems like a pretty big
distraction while learning. Do the FARs prohibit pax while IFR training?


No, not at all, and in fact some viewpoints think it's a good
idea to take flight students of various flavors along, esp.
instrument students, both for learning by observation and as
an extra set of safety-pilot eyes.


That makes sense.


Something strange about this, though -- are the TERPS really
right on this approach? Climb from 2,100 ft to 3,200 ft to
clear a 2,090 ft mountain -- shouldn't there be 2000 ft of
obstacle clearance over a mountain? Also is there an obstacle
DP for departure from that runway? Seems like going missed
after the MAP would require a non-standard climb gradient,
as would a departure?

Very sad accident


Yes, for sure.


R. Hubbell


Cheers,
Sydney