"R.Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:32:17 GMT "Dudley Henriques"
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"Jeb" wrote in message
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Flight Sim enquiry raises terror alert
By Andrew Orlowski in Las Vegas
Posted: 08/01/2004 at 22:39 GMT
A mother's enquiry about buying Microsoft Flight Simulator for her
ten-year-old son prompted a night-time visit to her home from a state
trooper.

Julie Olearcek, a USAF Reserve pilot made the enquiry at a Staples
store in Massachusetts, home to an earlier bout of hysteria, during
the Salem witch trials.

So alarmed was the Staples clerk at the prospect of the ten year old
learning to fly, that he informed the police, the Greenfield Recorder
reports. The authorities moved into action, leaving nothing to chance.
A few days later, Olearcek was alarmed to discover a state trooper
flashing a torch into to her home through a sliding glass door at 8:30
pm on a rainy night.

Olearcek is a regular Staples customer and schools her son at home.
The Staples manager simply explained that staff were obeying advice.
Shortly before Christmas, the FBI issued a terror alert to beware of
drivers with maps, or reference books.

At one time it was rare to find US citizens, in the safest and most
prosperous country in the world, jumping at their own shadows. Now we
only note how high.

It could also be noted that incidents like this are isolated rather than
the
general norm. This specific incident was overplayed because the person

It could be noted but it isn't true. There are plenty of knee-jerks like
this
going on everyday. Do you think every one makes the news?


involved on the receiving end was a pilot. People are not jumping at
their

This makes no sense. In what way was it overplayed? The person involved
was 10 years old. It was overplayed because our rights to freedom are
being trampled.


own shadows in America. If anything, there's a huge problem with people


People are shooting at their own shadows. 10,000 gun related per year.
(or more??)

generally beginning to take on a "relaxed" attitude about the country
being
hit again.
These incidents are going to happen, and they're going to happen again,
so
you better get used to it. When you have retail store managers with good


It's surprising to think that anyone could buy into the drivel you seem
to have bought into. Wait until you're hauled off and detained with no
reason given.


intentions but absolutely no training in security matters at all calling
meetings and "briefing" young impressionable sales clerks on the
importance
of reporting "anything suspicious" because they have received a flyer
from
"headquarters" or seen something on the nightly news, this kind of thing
is
going to happen.
The bottom line is that we're caught between what we should be doing to
be
secure, and what we're actually doing to be secure. It's a mess out
there.
There's some security, but not nearly enough has been done. We're caught
between our freedom and how much of that freedom we're willing to give
up
for security. It's a HUGE problem that's filled with pot holes. We have


There are not enough freedoms to give up to get the safety you seem to
think
we can get.


every faction with an agenda to grind flailing away at every attempt to
make
the nation more secure. In fact, I think it's safe to say, from what
I've
seen so far at least, that we're as afraid and suspicious of our own
government as we are of the terrorist situation, perhaps with reason,
perhaps not...who the hell knows?


Well our own government has lied to us so many times recently you don't
know what to believe do you? They've done all kinds of horrible things to
our
own people. LSD testing on unknowing, unwitting military test subjects.
Chemical spraying on "special" ops teams in Hawaii. Lying about WMDs.
Just
today there's a report that Bush was planning the Iraq invasion pre-9/11.


So if you're not afraid and suspicious of our own government then you must
be very naive or conveniently ignorant. As far as I can tell the only
people that like Bush and Co. are the very rich. Anyone else is naive or
a fool if they think this admin. is doing them any good. If you're under
$500,000/yr you are taking it you-know-where. Have a close look at AMT if
you are in disbelief. If you like your money you can't like Bush and Co.


The bottom line is that along with these security warnings going up and
down, and the agendas floating around trying to tear the country apart
with
conspiracy theories, you're going to have little old ladies hassled at
the


What conspiracy theories?


airport for their nail clippers; old men of 96 taken aside and made to
strip
down to their shorts; clerks at Staples showing the boss that they are
"contributing" to the overall "concerns" of their employers; and young

blah blah blah


middle eastern looking men passed by security because no one wants to
look
like their profiling.


What? Do you have some instances of this happening? I don't believe you.


Hell, all you have to do is take a good look at the posts that might
follow
mine here to see how absolutely divided we all are on this issue :-)))

Divided is not the issue it's about getting facts as opposed to concocting
incorrect conclusions.

R. Hubbell

LOL!
Hell Hubbell, this post is so filled with personal agenda and conspiricy
theory that it's literally impossible to deal with it even if I wanted to,
which I don't :-)
You win, The world sucks; the government exists only to hurt us, and they're
coming to get all of us in the middle of the night, and the President is a
................ what's the use....? :-))
Take care,
DH