Margy,

What kind of district do you teach in. I live in an urban environment where
the school district is notoriously disrespected (likely becuase they do
little other than trying to manipulate their test scores to show improvement
by teaching the tests, picking who does and doesn't take the test using
threats, lying about the actual results, and outright changing answers on
the kids' tests).


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Dude wrote:

Teachers I have talked too care less about the money and more about the
fact
that they have ZERO control in the classroom. The students have a right
to
do whatever they please wthout recourse. Only the best leaders are
capable
of controlling a classroom through force of personality. Enough of
those
people might be recruited with lots more money, but maybe not.

The quicker solution is to either bring back corporal punishment and
expulsions, or go with vouchers that will allow a free market to
separate
the children of idiots from the children of responsible parents.

I don't think corporal punishment is the answer. I'm lucky enough to work
in a
building where I can have control in my classroom (and I specialize in
emotionally disturbed students!!). We do need strict and enforced rules
in
schools. We also need teachers who respect their students as individuals
and
parents who expect their children to respect teachers as individuals.
(also
parents who expect children to respect parents!). I've seen way too many
children who are in control of their houses.

Margy



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If we have to have celebrity endorsement, then our nation is too
brain
dead to endure and is finished.

That's what happens when teachers make minimum wage, and celebrities
make
$100,000 an episode...

Teachers hardly make minimun wage. Even if we paid them $100K, they
don't
know _how_ to teach (besides being beholden to the unions). Further,
even
those who LOVE to teach, still miss HOW the human mind learns and
grasps
information in the form of concepts. That's why most all of
"education" is
now BY ROTE.