EDR wrote:

But they help pilot certificates. That is different from not having a
certificate. Rules of evidence apply (as I understand it, based on
stories in the Southern US).

I'm sure there's a typo in there, and I don't understand what you mean, but I can
assure you that, if an FAA inspector appears before a New Jersey judge and states
that he has reason to believe that a person intends to fly his plane on a revoked
certficate, that's all the "evidence" the judge will require. There will be a prop
lock on that plane that day.

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