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Old February 11th 04, 04:24 PM
Big John
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1. Will this be a private airfield and listed on the charts? If so,
probably will have to meet some FAA rules. Have you checked with FAA?

2. If he is just landing on his own property you may have problems?
Again, ask FAA.

3. Have you set down with your neighbor and in a friendly tone tried
to talk out the problem? If you haven't, do that first, as there may
be a mutual solution to your problem that allows him to fly and not a
big bother to you ?

Point out the flight path over your house and see if he can cock his
strip 'catty corner' across his (2600') land. This will take pattern
away from your house and also give him a longer runway. Best of both
worlds.

What activity and type of A/C is planned? You may not even have a
problem.

Can he give you a call on phone prior to taking off so you can expect
the noise?

etc., etc., etc.

If you follow the don't get mad, get even train of activist:

4. Lay out a landing strip on your land pointing at his house. Use a
few times so he gets the idea.

5. Build a two story barn on your property at the end of his strip.

6. Put a skeet range on your property at the end of his strip )

7. Put up a windmill at the end of his strip to pump water for your
cattle to use.

8. Take up kite flying )

On prevailing wind. I sited a strip a number of years ago and went to
Wx bureau and got the number of days the wind blew from 360 degrees
around the clock for several years. I used the direction where the
wind blew the strongest and runway was built. Now we find that 'every'
day we have a cross wind as the strong winds only blow a few days in
the year and we just land with the these cross winds. Get winds from
Wx bureau and evaluate as possible ammo in your discussion. i.e., if
strong winds are only in winter when you have 6 feet of snow, they are
not a problem for private strip which will never get plowed ) If
this is to be a fair Wx summer strip, check winds for those months.

From my Owners Manuals I used while active as a CFI:

All figures with zero wind.

Cessna 150 (at gross)
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2500 feet elevation 5000 feet elevation

Ground run = 910' Ground run = 1115'
Clear 50' obs = 1660' Clear 50' obs = 1985'

Cessna 172 (at gross)
``````````````````````````````````
2500 feet elevation 5000 feet elevation

Ground run = 1040' Ground run = 1255'
Clear 50' obs = 1910' Clear 50' obs = 2480'

Cessna 182 (at gross)
``````````````````````````````````
2500 feet elevation 5000 feet elevation

Ground run - 845' Ground run = 1015'
Clear 50' obs = 1625' Clear 50' obs = 1990'

Cessna 210 (at gross)
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2500 feet elevation 5000 feet elevation

Ground run = 1325' Ground run = 1600'
Clear 50' obs = 2305' Clear 50' obs = 2855'

All of these figures are for a hard surface runway so have to be
adjusted (increased) for dirt R/W.

Hope some of this errata helps with your problem.

Keep the thread informed how you come out.

Big John

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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:21:21 -0500 (EST), "" just an average "
Farlang..." wrote:

Can anyone tell me what criteria, rules, regulations a person needs to
be allowed to construct a private runway on his or her property. I know
there are many factors that are not presently known in this scenario but I
can try to input as much as I know.


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