"Saryon" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:39:46 -0000, (Michael
Houghton) wrote:

Howdy!

In article .net,
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Michael Houghton" wrote in message
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...and once again with "November 1234, radar contact..." Where, in
that
"radar contact" communication, does the controller say "remain
clear..."?


Nowhere. Where in that "radar contact" communication does the
controller
say anything that overrides the instruction to "remain clear of Class
Charlie"?

Where in that "radar contact" communication is an instruction to "remain
clear"?
No instruction means authorization to enter.

So your contention is that during a dialog that may span multiple
transmissions involving multiple aircraft over several minutes, every
time the controller says anything to the aircraft in question the
controller also has to say "by the way, stay out of my C"?

In theory, yes. But it doesn't happen that way. It's just not that
complicated. They are not trying to block airplanes out of the airspace,
just make sure that they know where they are and where they are going.
Typically, there is no "remain clear" or if there is, it is only for 30
seconds to a minute while they focus on something else. If they are really,
really busy, they'll ignore you from the very first radio call.

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Travis