"Scott Lowrey" wrote in message
news:JeCmc.43813$kh4.2295957@attbi_s52...

After one particular "oh ****" incident early in my training, I've paid
close attention to the ball when practicing stalls to avoid dropping a
wing. But some planes (I've only flown 152's and 172's) just seem to
say, "Nice job keeping the ball centered; now watch me roll over! Yee
ha!"

Put vortex generators on that 172 and it won't do that. In my 182 you can
go into a 45 degree bank turn, full opposite rudder, full back stick and
idle power. The normal 172/182 will roll over into the high wing as it
stalls. Put VG's on the plane and you will just sit there in your 45 degree
bank dropping at 1500 fpm.