EDR wrote:

There are tricycle gear aircraft out there with big engines up front
(PA28-235/6, C182, etc) and under light loading conditions (front two
seats occupied, full fuel) the cg is towards the front of the envelope.
If the pilot doesn't learn to get the nose up on landing, the nose gear
and firewall are going to get damaged.

Then someone who buys such an aircraft should learn to keep the nose up in that
plane. That's nowhere near enough justification for requiring training in
conventional gear for anyone.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.