"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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As for what they're capable of, remember Tex Johnson(sp?) barrel rolled
the 707 prototype (the "Dash-80").

Actually, an aileron roll, Paul. I know his book, ghost written by
another, says barrel roll, but the tape shows it's an aileron roll.

Among non-fliers, all rolls are "barrel rolls," just as all loops are
"loop-de-loops" and among Southerners, all Northerners are
"Damnyankees."

vince norris

Vince...everyone is entitled to their opinion. I've seen that tape numerous
times and I've done and taught several hundred aileron rolls (23 continuous
ones once in a T-38) and barrel rolls. The 707 prototype that day over Lake
Seattle did not do an aileron roll, it was a barrel roll. He dove, he
climbed and he did a constant "speed" roll about a point which is close to
the definition of a barrel roll as I can get without a book in front of me.
An aileron roll is a roll about the longitudinal axis of the aircraft. He
did not do a 360 roll around the longitudinal axis.

Regards,

JB