"Newps" wrote in message
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"Marty" wrote in message
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Why call it a mistake Newps?

Many, may reasons. Too low to the ground. I'm 6'1" and have to duck and
bend to get in. No good. Didn't like the seating position, reclined like
a
foreign car. Headliner too low, hit the top of my headset constantly.


Gotta have clothes that fit

If I want to lift a lot of weight, there is the T-206(my personal
favorite
of the Cessna guppies). If I want to just fly the family around there is
the
172 or 182 but geeze they are SLOW.

The Cardinal with the 180 hp engine is the same speed as the 172 with the
180 hp engine. Both are slower than a 182. I have no pants and big tires
on my 182 and am still faster than any 172/177. However that isn't even
the
point. Takeoff performance is the point. The 182 blows them both away.
And if you want a 182 to go fast you can put on all the fairings and speed
mods and get about 150 kts TAS on the 230 HP. Much more if you go with
300
HP.


Thanks, thats why I asked. I flew a 177RG and I only remembered that you
get the approach speed under control early, it didn't want to slow down,
it's been awhile.


The Cardinal has a high performance airfoil

The 68 and 69 models did, later than that and they had the same basic wing
as a 172.





To each his own but I think Cessna had a diamond in the rough and for
economic (profit) reasons pitched it.

If Cessna hadn't screwed up and sold it with the 150 hp engine and that
****ty tail in 68 the 172 might be as rare as the 175 now. After they
started selling them however the die was cast and it was too late to
recover.



A Card with 200hp+ and CS prop would fit my flying lifestyle to a tee.
Other
than that I'll be looking for a Piper.


My preference is for an off road airplane. The Cardinal has much weaker
gear than the 182, especially that goofy nosewheel. You won't find low
wing
Pipers in the mountains and landing on rough strips. I am trying to
decide
between putting a 275 HP engine and extended baggage in my plane or
upgrading to a P206.


I'd vote for the 206, best one in the fleet. I have a bit of time in the 206
and find it is a great trade off in many respects. I just don't have the
$$$.
Matter of fact, I transitioned from the C150/2 to the 206 as a student, talk
about dangling the perverbial carrot! Hard to get back into the 150 after
that.




All I want to do is go (safely) from point A to point B, at the fastest,
most reasonable cost in a 4 place bird.

Then you want a early to mid 60's 35 Bonanza. Buddy of mine has one, very
nice and very fast. He gets about 160 kts on approx 11 gph with the
IO-470.


I'll have to do more research, but I've shyed away from RGs because of
costs vs. benefits.

One thing I do know, fractional ownership on a Cherokee isn't working.

Thanks,
Marty