"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
Let me make it as clear as I can for you. Your premise that by my
standards, the flight test must produce either an incompetent pilot
or
send a failure back to the drawing boards is flawed. You have
totally
misinterpreted what I have said.
What I said was that I had never flown with a product of an
accelerated
basic training program where that pilot didn't in my opinion need
remedial training to bring them up to what I consider to be
appropriate
comprehension standards.

So is that a product of the acellerated training itself or is it a
product
of the typical acellerated student who "graduates" with only 40 to 50
hours
under his belt instead of the usual 70 or so? If that accelerated
student
had the blazed through 70 to 100 hours would he be "as good as" the
traditional student? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

Perhaps the typical accelerated student represents a particular
mindset of
people who perhaps aren't as dedicated to learning to fly as
traditional
students. Perhaps they just aren't as passionate about flying as
"normal"
people. After all, these students probably tend to be doctors, busy
businessmen and folks with more money than time. They just need to
get this
"training nonsense" behind them so they can be more productive in
their
careers. If they had instead gone through traditional training, would
they
tend to display the same kinds of weaknesses? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

That's my whole point, Dudley. Not one soul here - including you -
has
provided any more than lightweight ancedotal evidence and baseless
theories
that accelerated students tend to suck.

The reality and the body of evidence (consisting of thousands of
successful
graduates of these programs going back 100 years) tends to indicate
otherwise.

--
Jim Fisher

Let me try this worded more simply for you.

A flight instructor has simply posted an opinion on accelerated training
at the basic level based on his personal experience dealing with these
issues for fifty years. That opinion states he believes the best all
around way to learn to fly is taking a path that allows ample time
between lessons so that comprehension can keep pace with rote learning;
rather than a method that doesn't allow this time.
This is simply an opinion; not a statistical analysis.
No one has used the term "accelerated programs suck" except YOU!
No one has used the term "the check ride is a joke" except YOU!
No one has used the term "Jillions of pilots unworthy of the privilege
are flying over our heads" except YOU!

Is a picture beginning to form here for you? It sure is for me. In your
effort to defend your position on accelerated training, which is heavily
a pro position, you are grossly over reaching with glittering
generalizations describing scenarios that don't exist in the basic
premise.
The truth is that there is no argument, and nothing has to be proved.
It's my opinion that these accelerated programs are not optimum. That
doesn't in any way imply the things you are saying in your responses.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
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