"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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You're placing the entire responsibility on Jim. Interesting that Steven's
replies do not.

Not sure how you get that. I am saying essentially the same thing Steven
said (for example) when he wrote "He's wrong whether or not there was other
traffic. He did not follow the controller's instruction."

Perhaps you'd share with us where you feel that Steven is assigning
responsibility with the controller. Surely you don't think the difference
between a "clearance" and an actual clearance is significant here? Even
assuming the controller actually said "cleared", which I give only 50/50
probability of actually having happened.

Pete