I take it from your reply that you _are_ a controller - I did not
realize that. Obviously, you know better than I what controllers pay
attention to and what they don't.

Newps wrote:



Paul Folbrecht wrote:
Seems to me that they certainly

ought to - these are the official demarcations of the runway, right,


I am only interested in what happens within the white lines. You roll
over the hold short line by an airplane length it doesn't change what I
do one iota, as long as you remain outside the white lines.


and

*part* of the responsibility of controllers is to enforce the FARs


Enforcement is FSDO's job. The only time ATC helps out is if a loss of
separation occurs or some other near dangerous thing happens. If
controllers called FSDO everytime you bend an FAR there would be tens of
thousands of cases each year.