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Old October 24th 04, 03:56 PM
Andrew Sarangan
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Please don't push your gun lobby on this newsgroup. I have been a strong
opponent of the TSA rule, but I do not see the parallels with gun
control. Guns are designed to kill people. Airplanes are designed to
transport people. I admit I don't know much about guns. But that
discussion does not belong in this newsgroup unless there is a direct
connection to aviation (such as guns in the cockpit etc..).





"W P Dixon" wrote in
:

Well Tien,
The Second Amendment was written in order to keep the government
in
check. The power of the people was meant to be stronger than the power
of the federal government. Unfortunately "We The People" has become
more like "We The Sheeple". Slowly law after law takes away the
freedoms of the people. When you look at laws that are enacted that
tell a homeowner that he can not paint his house certain colors it's
pretty easy to see! If you don't you are going through life with
blinders on.
Australia and Great Britain have enacted severe gun control laws ,
and
their crime rates have sky rocketed. Check out the numbers on numerous
web sites...it's amazing! For myself I see a gun control law as just
another step to do away with guns. Common Sense tells us all that
someone who is a convicted felon should never be allowed to own a
firearm, but how many people do we still let drive a car that drives
DUI...just as dangerous wouldn't you think?
I think a big part of all of the hoopla is that gun control people
don't
really understand guns period, or laws already written. I constantly
hear talk of these gun shows selling guns to anybody . I go to these
shows all the time and I have never bought even an old shotgun without
the dealer calling a background check on me. But some politicians may
like that does not happen..Which is just a blatent lie. So it makes me
wonder exactly what these politicians are up to!
The assault weapons ban was a joke! It banned guns because of the
way
they looked! My .22 cal rifle fits the operational category of these
"oh so bad" weapons! It's just ridiculas! Also covered on this "ban"
was high capacity magazines. Like it takes more than one bullet to
kill someone?
I find it amusing that the political party in this country that
usually
complains about police brutality seems to want to make themselves even
more at the mercy of these same police. When only the police and the
feds have guns , what do they think will keep these types in check
then? No I am not saying all cops commit brutal acts, but there are
those on the gun control side that think it happens more often than
not in law enforcement.And yep there are in deed BAD COPS....how many
bad cops will there be when no one can protect themselves from
anything..crooks or anyone?
And one simple fact remains...make all the laws you want and the
crooks
will still have them and get them . And it only effects law abidding
citizens..who would then be at the mercy of these thugs. If they can
not smuggle them in...which heck we all know you can do look at all
the drugs that come into this country! , a gun is very simple to make.
So the law only prevents a person from defending themselves. Case in
point... The city of Kennesaw Mountain , GA passed a law that required
anyone over the age of 21 (homeowner I believe) to own a handgun. The
crime rate dropped by something of the 80% range. Again please look up
the exact number. The town made this law because a town in Ohio I
think it was banned guns.....there crime rate rose by about 80%.
Every city in this country that has strict gun control laws has
the
worst crime rates. I for one will never depend on the police that
usually show up 2 hours after a crime has taken place to defend my
family. As far as police complaints well I would complain to, if I had
a 9mm and the bad guys had AK-47's. and since no law is going to stop
the bad guys from having an Ak-47 ...why shouldn't the police or
someone who "has the right" to defend their family have equal
firepower.
And common sense will tell you that if you took every single gun
out of
a country, a murderer will still kill! Will we ban knives next... then
frying pans and baseball bats? Where would it stop? Or would it just
stop when the government knew the sheeple were at their mercy? No
fiearms sure means no civilian uprising against a tyrant.
It sure all debateable for sure, I think the entire process needs
people to see from both viewpoints not just one side. Gun Control for
me would be a background check, must be 18 to own or carry a firearm,
and a convicted felon has no right to a firearm or a vote( those
rights should be lost at conviction). Other than that..you can take my
guns when you pry my dead cold fingers off of them. hee hee hee

Patrick
"TD" wrote in message
m...
Roger wrote in message

Bush's fundamentalism, Born again Christian stance scares me


Scares me too.


as does
Kerry's anti-gun, ...stance.


Roger, this confuses me, and many others I am sure both in the US and
especially outside. Why do many americans view anti-gun laws as
frightening? Coming from a place where we have significant gun
control mechanisms, which in my layman`s view, seems to "work"
controlling violent crime, why would you favor upholding the 2nd
ammendment instead of supporting gun control, which many if not all
law enforcement agencies recommend strengthening?

Tien





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