(PS2727) wrote:

I suppose my problem is that, as a pilot, the only thing I see when I look up
info on maneuvering speed is something along the lines of " the maximum speed
at which full control travel will not cause damage to the structure". I have
never seen any fine print or exceptions, nor do I see that it is limited to any
particular axis. So now that we have an accident related to this we now have
all the experts to tell us how we had it wrong all these years. I wonder, what
will the next accident teach us about our incomplete knowledge of how these
flying machines are designed?

These limits are not so straightforward as many people think. It is
interesting to find out more about what they actually mean. For
example, the load factor for a wing may be significantly reduced by
aileron usage. So if it is rated at 3.8g, that assumes ailerons
neutral. If you are rolling at the same time, you might break
something.

Likewise maximum g is likely to be reduced with flaps extended,
although this should be documented in the manual.