"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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"C Kingsbury" wrote:

Still, I've managed to become and remain friends with quite a few of
these
people because I realize that they're not actually bad people, just
misguided.
^^^^^^^^^^

so they need to pray for their sins? or what? how do you come to the
conclusion
that they are misguided? and why are they misguided?

Example: Social Security reform. They think people like me want to privatize
Social Security because we're greedy rich white men trying to screw the poor
yet again. Then I explain how said privatization actually has its greatest
potential net benefits for lower-class blacks, who the current system screws
terribly much of the time. Much of the time the argument then shifts from
"You're evil" to "But that can't possibly work and here's why."

The first argument is pointless and stupid. The second is politics, and
offers a chance to find common ground.

-cwk.