"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
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Oh yes Jay! and THEN what about North Korea and THEN...... geez, where
does it stop? Better get the mothers in the U.S. to crank out a LOT more
babies, 'cause we're going to be needing soldiers for awhile....

The countries we have been discussing (and the one you mentioned) is not
exactly one that has shown good judgement. To take your example of N
Korea... if you really need lessons on the political nature of the
communists in Korea, China, Cuba, then you are beyond all reason.

While Iran is the last that I'd want to have Nuclear weapons,

Ah, a rational thought has come forth from your keyboard, finally.

still,,, in terms of an objective evaluation of fairness, let me get this
right..... WE are entitled to having nuclear weapons as a deterrent to
attack,,,, but certain OTHERS can't have them for the same reason?

Since you brought up objective evaluation of fairness let's do so. The
country you mention has attacked others. Clearly not a good thing. We do
not have faith in the leaderships ability to restrain itself from using
nuclear weapons as offensive weapons.

For the reason of; "Because the U.S. , said so?" Even though the U.S. is
the only one to have EVER used nuclear weapons in a war?

Yes, in a war. We were attacked first. We used them to save lives. Far
more people died in the Dresden firebombing than from the nuclear bombs we
dropped. If you are really that ignorant of history and why we chose to
shorten the war and save Japanese and American lives you are truly in your
own little world.


While I'm NO friend of Iran (although the U.S. used to be friends with
them, until the leader of the time, made the mistake of not doing what we
told him to do),

Um, I think it was due to some hostages, and other such nonsense. France
does not do what we tell them and we do not attack them. It takes a lot of
naughty things to happen to be on our dirty list. Do you really think of
all the countries below that the US is the bad guy? Come on, be real.

(N Korea, Libya, Iran Iraq, Cuba, China, etc)

don't you think,,, if you were in THEIR shoes and watching a major power
blast your neighbors into the sand that YOU might be thinking of having one
of those nuclear deterrent 'thingies' too?

Given the brainwashing and religious fanaticism and equating the "west" with
eveil, sure, they want one. However, they would most likely choose to use
them as offensive weapons. The US did not start this war.


While I'd rather not see more nukes around the world, I've never
understood how we could argue how only we and a choice few others were
allowed to have them.

Don't others (countries) have the 'right to bear arms' (even if those arms
'glow')?


It is in ouor interest to protect ourselves from the bad guys. If we
thought that they would use it only as a deterrent than you would be
correct. It is doubtful that that is the reason though. Countries have a
right to defend themselves. They do not have the right to attack another.

It is mind boggling though that a country would not want to become a
defeated nation of the US. It seems to have worked out well for others in
the past.




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