"Cockpit Colin" wrote in message
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Just in from the creator ...

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There is no component in Flightcell with more than 1% tolerance.
There are in excess of 180 components on the PCB.

Ok well they can talk but until they start giving manufacture part #'s and
if surface mount reel #'s and lot #'s I would say they are using the
cheapest parts their contract mfg can get their hands on.


The connectors cost minimum $10 USD each and there are up to 4 of those.
Add to this 5 digital

Yea Right!!!! Provide a Part #


pots at $12 each and already you can see ...

Still no part #'s to back up their claim


AND ...

If he signs a NDA, we will send him all the drawings. If he can make it

Sign a non disclosure agreement hahaha why would I want to do that I would
just buy one take it apart get all the part #'s values & redraw the pcb with
minor changes & improvements being sure not to infringe on their intlectual
property. Or use a schmetaic capture and redraw the PCB from a schematic
then make some changes thicken a trade here and there add a layer ect.. The
only real expensive thing would be the injection molds & molding to house
the device but could get that down to a reasonable price if production
quantity was sufficient.

Ohh and if I signed an NDA and found out they were using substandard parts I
could not say anything becuse of the NDA.


cheaper than we can without any reduction in quality then we will send all

our production to him.

I Humm tempting but NO, not with a NDA. Better yet why dont they try a few
places below and outsource it themselves I would do it but I require
customers to make schematics publicaly avaiable due to liability reasons.
The PCB mfg's below are some of the major players in the asian market today
some can do up to 24 layer poly-u boards and most have their own contract
mfg facilitys.

Onpress Printed Circuits Limited
http://www.onpress.com.hk

Three Sun Enterprise Co Ltd
http://www.three-sun.com

Shenzhen Shennan Circuits Co Ltd
http://www.shennancircuits.com

Xing Da Printed Circuit Board Manufacturer
http://www.zsxingda.com

Global Expert Technologies Ltd
http://www.getpwb.com

Evergreen PCB Fty Ltd
http://www.evergreenpcb.com

I Have about 100 More Contract MFG's & PCB MFG's on my list that I use.
These are a few top players in Asia. Please Fwd this to who ever tell them
to have fun but no MFG's will even touch their Gerber Files or Drill Data
with an NDA as they may have to subcontract the work.

How's that for challenge. This is a serious offer!!!!


Not to serious of an offer with a NDA how could it be outsourced with a NDA

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So, is anyone going to take him up on the offer?

As I said above No MFG's will even touch their Gerber Files or Drill Data
with an NDA as they may have to subcontract the work. I take that offer a as
insult and so would other's. You will see when dealing with Asian Corporate
Businessmen they expect to be treated with trust and respect it's a totally
different set of business ethics not like the U.S. market ware it needs to
be earned no wonder their production costs are high. Most contract mfg's
will not disclose your details anyway unless it kills someone.

NW_Pilot
PP-ASEL