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Old November 25th 04, 03:41 AM
Big John
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aluckyguess

Let me talk about IFR approaches from experience.

1. If the ILS needles were centered, I doubt if the pilots would take
advice from ground.. This could lead to a long discussion between ILS
and GCA and which is the best.

2. Both pilots had 20,000 hours of flying time (not newbe's).

3. Was reported that ILS was checked and was working ok???

4. If on an ILS, then altimeter setting would not be of prime
importance. You ride the beam down until you see the R/W (or minimum
altitude and go around) and land. The beam (needles) is/are the
governing factor on az and el. ILS is sited to have a touch down point
of say 2000 down R/W. Forget the exact figures.

5. In my review of facts released to date I would look hard at the ILS
system(s) in the bird. Or a second possibility, pilots saw the ground
and went VFR to land and in scud running ran into the tower. Voice
recorder should show if it happened that way.

Any comments from high time IFR pilots?

Still in recovery from having the inside of my heart burned out with
RF and cancer scare (negative).

Big John
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:29:26 -0800, "aluckyguess" wrote:

Something about this crash sounds fishy. I am sure these were really good
pilots. How do you make a mistake like this especialy when the tower tells
you youre to low, and then you never reply back.