"Michael" wrote in message
ups.com...
in the last 3 years I have not had a
positive result that I din't end up getting the employee to admit was
indeed

And how did you get the employee to admit this?

No admissions obtained by letting the employee get any benefit from the
admission that he would not otherwise get (like keeping his job) counts
as legitimate.

Michael

No benefit was offered. I have them in my office and I act like the fine
human I am an they roll everytime.