Colin W Kingsbury wrote:

Chains!? Where do they get them? I grew up in upstate NY, on a steep dirt
road that often iced over, and I don't think we even owned a set of chains,
let alone put them on cars.

I've been told that they're illegal in New Jersey - that may also be the case in
New York. I have at least two sets I acquired in Georgia and Tennessee. I
stumble across them in the garage every so often.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.