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Old September 23rd 04, 04:30 PM
C J Campbell
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Actually, no pilot has ever reported recovering from a spin in a Cirrus.


Who would he report to?

It
is not for lack of trying. There are numerous reports of Cirrus aircraft
crashing (or they would have crashed if CAPS had not been deployed)

after
the pilots entered a spin, however.

I don't agree. What there have been is a few low altitude spin ins and a

couple
of crashes involving pilots not deploying the chute. However, there is

no indication
that they attempted to recover from (or even recognized they were involved

in) a spin.

Searching the NTSB for Cirrus:

1. Stall/spin immediately after takeoff (treetop level). SR20
2. Pilot deployed CAPS in IMC after insturments became unreliable SR22


Cirrus' manuals treat spins and steep spirals the same. In this case, the
airplane entered a steep spiral.

3. Botched landing due to brake failure. SR22
4. Wire strike during simulated forced landing SR22
5. Low altitude stall due to evasive manouvering in the pattern. SR20


I am not sure what your point about altitude is or why you think it proves I
am wrong, but I am willing to listen to it.

6. Crash from low altitude pass SR20
7. Wire strike. SR20
8. Spatial disorientation followed by a high speed impact with the ground

(unlikely therefore
to have been a spin). SR22


No, but it would have been a steep spiral, which Cirrus seems to think is
the same thing.

9. VFR-into-IMC CFIT SR20
10. Collision with deer SR20
11. CAPS deployed after aileron falls off. SR22
12. Mountainous terrain/Density Alt CFIT SR20


One of these two CFITs had the pilot reporting that he had entered a spin.
Of course, the news reports may have been incorrect.

13. SPIN FROM 5000 FEET. SR22
14. Spatial disorientation and CAPS wouldn't deploy, collides with trees

on emergency landing. SR22
15. Emergency landing due to failure to replace drain plug SR20
16. Forced landing due to fuel mismanagement. SR22
17. Botched landing SR22
18. VFR into IMC CFIT (mountainous) SR20
19. SR20 test crash (aileron jamming)
20. VK30 CG test results in spin.
21. VF30 engine fire forced landing

Plus there are two more that don't have enough information to determine.

However
I suspect one was a botched illicit IFR approach. The other was a fatal

in Spain.
As far as I know ther ehave been FOUR Cirrus deployments (counting the

most
recent one) Of which only the last one as near as I can tell might be

spin related.
The others were PANIC button pulls from mechanical failures or disoriented

pilots.

So at the most we've had one SR20/SR22 crash from a spin that the pilot

might
have thought to try recovering from (either via CAPS deployment or control

input)
and one CAPS deployment to avert a spin.

This doesn't agree with your statement.


I count four spins.