"C J Campbell" wrote in message news:qd-dnQxHoKuEcc_cRVn-

2. Pilot deployed CAPS in IMC after insturments became unreliable SR22

Cirrus' manuals treat spins and steep spirals the same. In this case, the
airplane entered a steep spiral.

But that wasn't your assertion. Your assertion was that spin recovery was either
fatal or resulted in a CAPS deployment, with the implication being that spin recovery
by control inputs was not possible. Sprials are a completely different beast.


5. Low altitude stall due to evasive manouvering in the pattern. SR20

I am not sure what your point about altitude is or why you think it proves I
am wrong, but I am willing to listen to it.

Because my assertion is that no matter what the method for spin recovery would
be (in whatever aircraft), recovery from such a low altitude spin would have been
unlikely.

8. Spatial disorientation followed by a high speed impact with the ground
(unlikely therefore
to have been a spin). SR22

No, but it would have been a steep spiral, which Cirrus seems to think is
the same thing.

But that wasn't the point you claimed. You claimed that people were dying because
there was no way to recover from the spin.

9. VFR-into-IMC CFIT SR20
12. Mountainous terrain/Density Alt CFIT SR20

One of these two CFITs had the pilot reporting that he had entered a spin.
Of course, the news reports may have been incorrect.

Neither is apparent from the NTSB report... One showed the aircraft entering
pretty much flat and straight ahead, the other showed failure outclimb obstacles
at a reduced peformance (DA) condition.


I count four spins.

I don't. I count at most one spin that could have been recoverable if the aircraft
had conventional spin behavior (and it has yet been proven that the Cirrus can't be
recovered by some control inputs). Your assertion of numerous crashes as a result
of spins and/or deployments is not supported. Even by your own optimistic view
it's only 4.